Where’s the Party? Bolivia, Apparently!

9 10 2009

I can’t remember where I came across this article, someone must have posted it somewhere and I thought it was interesting.

It turns out there is a bar in Bolivia, that moves around of course, where you sit down hang out have a drink and do a line or ten.  I’m sure some are up in arms about it, but I think it’s a grand idea.  Not because I’m all about doing blow till my gills turn green, whether I would go there or not isn’t the point.  The point is if you’re going to do drugs it would be better to be getting it from an organized and reliable source.  And doing them in a safe and supervised environment.

Honestly, I think it’s a great idea.

CocaineI mean really, people are going to do it anyway, they’ll pay what they have to and go where they need to.  And with all the scary cloak and dagger stuff, people end up getting their recreational party favours from shady people they don’t know.  And doing them in dark dirty little places trying to hide it from the owners of the bars.  I’m mean the back of the toilet in a club can’t be very sanitary…

But in this place you sit down at a nice clean table, they give you all your ‘tools’ and the bar needs to make sure their quality is high.  If the product is shit, who’s going to go there?  If it’s cut, mixed or whatever with draino, you’re hardly recommending the place to your friends or coming back (ever if they really use draino).   Having an establishment forces them to be accountable for the quality of the product and the safety of the patrons.

In my mind it’s just like the brothels:  if prostitutes are on the street it’s dangerous and crap for everyone, but if it’s sanctioned then there are things in place to protect the workers as well as the patrons.  Of course there are many people who think that’s a bad idea too…. sigh.  Just because you don’t want to partake doesn’t mean it should be illegal and shady.

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14 responses

9 10 2009
marcus

taoyoun?

9 10 2009
Magdalicious

Chuckle… a suggestion?

10 10 2009
Nadine

I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it wasn’t so deadly. I get that it’s a clean, safe environment, but it’s still feeding a deadly addiction. At least with brothels, there is a level of protection (bodyguards, condoms, etc) With this, you get addicted, your cardiovascular and respiratory systems take a shit-kicking, you do crappy things to yourself and others to pay for a fix, and you either go through complete hell beating the addiction, or you die. Interesting article, perhaps a well-intentioned idea (although I’m sure it’s all about making the big money) but I just can’t be on board with something like this.

10 10 2009
Paul

Again, I have to side with Nadine. As someone who’s personally been faced with a gun twice and knives three times over drugs and partying (all in my workplace following them getting high, or in the process), I know how this goes…it’s never enough. So you can go get loaded up at this ‘special’ bar. Great. So what about the damage that some of these people are going to do in the neighbourhood and then pass off on being high? Who pays for that?

And then, it’s just not a social scene. Drug users still like their private parties. It’s all about the prestige with these harder substances. So the home party and the underground suppliers just soldier on, alongside the ‘legal’ bars. In my city here, Saskatoon, some 25,000+ people identified themselves as ‘first nations’ in a census. That’s 10% of the population and sadly, many of them find themselves still held down from higher paying jobs and such. As a result, many of them occupy the rundown part of town, fuel the red light district with girls (and here I do MEAN girls, not just women), and not only supply a healthy line of drugs, but actual bootlegging. Granted, some parts of the province are dry (no alcohol) and it’s illegal to have a strip club in the province, but these things will never balance out just because you institute a ‘legal’ system.

And I doubt that the bar will ever take responsibility for any injury or death in a way that makes up for the messed up people, damage, and potential loss of life.

10 10 2009
Magdalicious

Not to poop on your parades… but how exactly is everything you mentioned any different from Alcohol?

10 10 2009
Nadine

Sometimes it’s not… it’s just that not everyone who goes to a bar and drinks is an alcoholic, but you can bet that everyone who uses cocaine is an addict. I think anyone who is in fact an alcoholic would be smart to stay clear of bars/parties, not go to a place where their drug of choice is readily available….. see what I’m saying? If someone cares so little about their life that they are willing to throw it away for drug use, then I guess this establishment is just the place for them. But as Paul said, who pays the price when they are no longer under the supervision, so to speak, of the establishment? Cocaine use is not just some frivolous pass-time, it’s a lethal addiction. I loves ya, but I just can’t be convinced that this is a good idea 😦

10 10 2009
Magdalicious

oh my god.. I’m so mad.. I just wrote like a two page response and the server crashed.. I’m not writing it again.

Basically all I said was that far more people (that you know) have and do do drugs, and they are not addicts. People all around everyday. And that the concept that they are all addicts is just something drummed up by the government it’s propaganda.

These drugs are just as addictive as ones people have access to all the time, like caffeine, nicotine, and alcohol. (people who tell you different are pretty much just spouting what they have heard or are lying to you). They all cause all kinds of health problems when used in excess.

And honestly can you tell me that someone who abuses drugs is worse than an alcoholic? Or an addictive gambler? They ruin their lives and the people around them too… The problems aren’t the drugs themselves, but the addictions and abuse.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. Each to their own it’s none of my business, but lots of people use and don’t abuse. And if the suppliers had some level of accountability… there would be far less problems than there are now. 😛

I’m copy and pasting this before trying to post it.. just in case… (stupid server)

10 10 2009
Nadine

Hey, I’m all for accountability. I have heard of bars being sued for allowing someone to have too much to drink, then letting them leave, or drive, and someone ends up getting hurt. If this can be achieved with the coke bar, then maybe you’re onto something.

11 10 2009
Magdalicious

😀 see

10 10 2009
Paul

Group hug! They’re free and if you get addicted…only your arms will get tired. 😉

10 10 2009
bowet000

Uh, Nadine, I know a lot of people who have used coke that are most certainly not addicts. Unless you consider 1x a year a junkie.

I don’t necessarily agree with making drugs legal, but I definitely wish I’d known about this bar when I went to Bolivia. I would’ve given it a go, and it most likely would’ve been significantly less dangerous than the prison I visited in Ecuador!

10 10 2009
Nadine

Hey, I’m not trying to be judgemental – if that’s something you want to try, that’s none of my business. I’m going on my own personal experiences with the aftermath of drug use. I guess I see it differently, because I’m married with kids and I have a whole hell of a lot to lose if I made the choice to “just try it” and risk getting addicted.

Agree to disagree?!?

10 10 2009
Nadine

This was a great post, Mag. You sure know how to get people talking 😀

11 10 2009
Magdalicious

Thanks 🙂 I try

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